The End Options

[Assassin]

Okay so like... If Mr. Z made the world arent we kind of in the wrong for using our ability to think for ourselves to screw it up... or is he wrong for creating us in the first place. if he didnt make us this way we wouldnt of made the choices we did so its his fault. im hoping he reads this and kills himself. but if he uncreated everything where is he? did he dissolve into nothingness or did he just go back to sleep. also is ansi like him? if so why didnt she just create a seperate world for us where Mr. Z wouldnt screw us over? why does the story always say zgram is wrong though thats only from our point of view. from the 'monsters' point of view, we are the monsters and we are screwing up a world that was intended for them. couldnt we have seperate worlds and all be happy. of course not we are humans we need to kill stuff or we become bored. but then it means we, the humans are evil vile creatures and monsters are defending themselves from our evilness. maybe ansi corrupted us and maybe the one we hate so much, zeygram, is our salvation but what do i know im just a spy who likes to stab stuff =B

nobody kill me for posting late i havent checked this is a while now =/

PS yay no pwipe i can still kill stuff :)

[Stasus]

PS yay no pwipe i can still kill stuff :)

"Pwipes" are for Anime games and Failed Fate.

[Assassin]

yeah but with the world ending and all it seemed like there might of been a playerwipe since zgram detroyed everything but non canon i guess it makes sense there wasnt

[Schnitzelnagler]

And so it begins (or ends, I always get rather confused by this time traveling stuff!):

(World) Fujek: Greetings MrBongs
(World) MrBongs: sup
(World) Fujek: I was happy to find water in a wood right before dying to thirst, but now I'm seeking the hunt again.
(World) Fujek: I need to find something to battle for pelt
(World) MrBongs: ahh how do i make a macro for wsay? also wth do i do in this game lol i used to play SL sad to see they stopped production
(World) Fujek: Hmm, you'd have to use a client sided macro for wsay, I just type it to be honest
(World) Fujek: Well, you can still play StolenLands, the world is just non canon
(World) MrBongs: ahh well wth am i supposed to do in this game? im getting owned and have nowhere to go
(World) MrBongs: wraths are kickin my ass
(World) Fujek: ZeroEra is kind of supposed to play before StolenLands started
(World) Fujek: So, imagine this as stoneage, where you have to fight for survival with the very most basic means
(World) Fujek: You can craft simple weapons out of stone or wood
(World) MrBongs: how lol
(World) Fujek: You can tan pelt to armor
(World) Fujek: You can learn some basic spells
(World) Fujek: Best is to try and find some very weak monster to start with, the beginning is the hardest part of the game
(World) Fujek: You can compare the "composite" value of a monster with yours
(World) MrBongs: is ZE gonna be worked on at all? or is this just a game to waste some time on
(World) Fujek: It's just a minigae to waste time on, though never the less fun, if you ask me
(World) Fujek: Your location is 346, 212. <- If you manage to get a location on yourself, I could help you a bit
(World) MrBongs: this is dumb lol theres nothing to do but get one shoted every 2minutes?
(World) MrBongs: maybe if there was a future to the game i would spend time on it lol any idea whats happening with SL?
(World) Fujek: Well, you need to move and select monesters caefully
(World) Fujek: Outrun whatever is too strong for you to battle
(World) MrBongs: this is stolen lands.... nuthin is outrunable untill u have loads of movement speed increase
(World) Fujek: Well, it is just going "on" as it is right now, you can play without limits, you just won't have a storyline
(World) MrBongs: without limits? and when will there be a story line lol
(World) Fujek: Outrunning in StolenLands means that you seek trees and loose your oponents there
(World) Fujek: I do not know if there is to be a story line again
(World) Fujek: Since we dumb humans kind of killed the world
(World) MrBongs: lol what exactly happened
(World) MrBongs: i didnt understand the post at all
(World) Fujek: http://omoban.com/stolenlands/board/index.php?showtopic=56 that is how it started.
(World) Fujek: Then a maverik freed Zeygram from his grave
(World) Fujek: And people agreed to help Morgaine, rather than to try and deal with Zeygram on their own
(World) Fujek: And this http://omoban.com/stolenlands/board/index.php?showtopic=66 is how it ended
(World) MrBongs: i know the start of the story line i mean how did it end and who ended it? i read that entire thing it just sais something about everyone killing monsters for ansi so zeygram decides to destroy everyt
(World) MrBongs: makes no sense
(World) Fujek: Why doesn't it make sense?
(World) Fujek: Humans belived Ansi
(World) Fujek: Ansi who taught them (or will teach them, rather, since we are at the beginning of the story now)
(World) Fujek: That they were superior to the other creatures in the world
(World) Fujek: That they had to fight, that they had to be something better and special and had to cleanse the world
(World) Fujek: Being egoists, we felt flattered, we flet that was right and had to be
(World) Fujek: Zeygram, who's children are all creatures, wanted peace
(World) Fujek: He tried to stop humans from slaughtering his innocent creatures
(World) Fujek: He failed. Time after time. So in the end, he had no other means than to destroy the world that he had created as he found he had failed
(World) MrBongs: yea thats completely retarded
(World) Fujek: How so?
(World) MrBongs: the game was planned to destroy itself
(World) Fujek: If you have a project for school (or later on for your job)
(World) Fujek: And you see it does not work out the way you wanted it to
(World) Fujek: And after trying to fix it several times
(World) Fujek: It always breaks
(World) MrBongs: its not that
(World) Fujek: Wouldn't you throw it away?
(World) MrBongs: its the fact that
(World) MrBongs: they planned it all out
(World) Fujek: They did not
(World) Fujek: The players could act and react. That drove the world to its end
(World) MrBongs: killing creatures didnt lol
(World) Fujek: Let's compare it to reality
(World) MrBongs: the owner of the game deciding he didnt wanna develope it anymore
(World) MrBongs: thats what decided this games fate
(World) MrBongs has disconnected.
(World) Fujek: Say that god exists, say that he gave the humans a free will and still they destroy the earth he gave them to live on


Will we ever learn?

[XxDTxX]

Learn what? That the creators of this game have hardly any interest with this game for now and even less for the players unless it's to amuse them?

[Lavarion]

You're right that it is amusing. Anyone who hasn't played since the beginning of the Second Era can't be expected to know that players had direct choices which affected the development of the world, and ultimately led to its end. But with Zero Era, a new storyline might be born, if we would put some effort into it. We won't, though. Good day.

[XxDTxX]

You shouldn't combine "the player's effort resulting the end of the world" and "your laziness" together.

[Lavarion]

I think that's where the humor comes from, yes.

[Jimbo Jambo]

I'm surprised Ansi hasn't stepped in to do anything. Can't she and Zeygram just settle their differences over a drink?

[Schnitzelnagler]

I somehow felt amused by the thaught of claiming that god (or the universe, or whoever created this planet) would find his interrest in the project fading and thus is about to terminate it.
Certainly it's not the responsibility of a species called humans (who, as they claim have a free mind), that their actions are constantly ruining the planet.

Oh lord, having a scapegoat is really a nice thing!

I'm surprised Ansi hasn't stepped in to do anything. Can't she and Zeygram just settle their differences over a drink?

I wonder, what happens if Zeygram dies after he is freed from his grave.
Will he respawn like every other creature, or is he, as the creator of the world, mortal?
And if the world's origin dies, what happens to the world?

Btw. I suppose Ansi got weak due to the many humans hunting her for her wings.

[Jimbo Jambo]

Btw. I suppose Ansi got weak due to the many humans hunting her for her wings.

Tch, I bet Zeygram wouldn't be so tough either after his gauntlet was stolen. Of course, stealing something from a monster doesn't actually remove it from their possession, but I could also argue that Ansi doesn't actually lose any power from being killed and/or having wings stolen since she always respawns in perfect condition and has an endless supply of wings. Besides, I wasn't suggesting she try to overpower him. She's destructive enough without all that physical power anyway.

Also, speaking of Zeygram's death, didn't someone make the argument that the Crimson Queen would have kept drawing energy from the Manastorm and basically gained limitless power if we had killed Zeygram first? The Manastorm was the tool by which Zeygram remade worlds, and it was encroaching upon the fourth-era world presumably because he was commanding it to. If Zeygram disappeared, the Manastorm should either have disappeared with him or stopped expanding, in which case the Queen would have sucked it dry and then stopped growing. Besides, by siphoning power from it, the Queen was really the only thing keeping the Manastorm at bay, so by killing her we essentially opened the flood gates and gave Zeygram total control. Damn it Morgaine! Again!

[Cherrysoda]

it's too bad, I guess she was right when she said she wasn't a hero like everyone thought. it almost sounds like they made up the story as they went along but I like it a lot anyway, it turned out a lot different than just good killing evil or the other way around

[Schnitzelnagler]

(...) I bet Zeygram wouldn't be so tough either after his gauntlet was stolen (...)

Like he'd need a lousy gauntlet to darkwave us into oblivion ;)
*looks at Jimbo and winks, humming Soorccerrerr*

Of course,(...) Ansi doesn't actually lose any power from being killed and/or having wings stolen since she always respawns in perfect condition and has an endless supply of wings. (...)

Here I'd say you are wrong.
With monsters going into hiding or even extinct, I'd say they are different than humans.
Not to mention the monsters that have been plagued with players bashing on them seem to have lost severely in power from the third to the fourth era!

(...) I guess she was right when she said she wasn't a hero like everyone thought.

Never trust women. Ever! *smiles and teases*

it almost sounds like they made up the story as they went along but I like it a lot anyway, it turned out a lot different than just good killing evil or the other way around

I think they actually did, since at least from what I've seen players haven't interacted much on their own, unless when they have been pushed to it by C/Lav (Funny sidenote, I just realised for the first time that C/Lav is kind of an amusing for for Claviarm / Lavarion!).

Lavarion mentioned that being different in the second era though.

[Jimbo Jambo]

Like he'd need a lousy gauntlet to darkwave us into oblivion ;)

Depends on whether or not his cast frequency would change. As it is now, he would benefit greatly from casting 100%, but he doesn't. Also, even though he would still cast, I think losing his 400 damage melee attack would weaken him notably.

Here I'd say you are wrong.
With monsters going into hiding or even extinct, I'd say they are different than humans.
Not to mention the monsters that have been plagued with players bashing on them seem to have lost severely in power from the third to the fourth era!

It's my understanding that extinct monsters suicided. Also, not every monster became weaker.

(Funny sidenote, I just realised for the first time that C/Lav is kind of an amusing for for Claviarm / Lavarion!).

A new celebrity couple, Clavarion.

Lavarion mentioned that being different in the second era though.

I think what he meant was that certain events in the second era were pivotal points where it really could have gone either way. I dunno though.

[Schnitzelnagler]

Depends on whether or not his cast frequency would change. As it is now, he would benefit greatly from casting 100%, but he doesn't. Also, even though he would still cast, I think losing his 400 damage melee attack would weaken him notably.

I'd say this is pure "show-off". Something like... "I can kill you with my bare fists, I do not even have to use magic".
Or, it's simply because restricting himself to just one gets him bored.

It's my understanding that extinct monsters suicided.

How can they suicide if killing them leaves them with no loss?
Suiciding would just have them respawn again (unhappy, but alive).
Unless you translate the "Delete" function as suicide :p

Also, not every monster became weaker.

Exeptions to the rule! Even more proof! *smiles and teases*

[Jimbo Jambo]

I'd say this is pure "show-off". Something like... "I can kill you with my bare fists, I do not even have to use magic".
Or, it's simply because restricting himself to just one gets him bored.

So surely it'd be even more sporting without Mikau II-esque damage.

How can they suicide if killing them leaves them with no loss?
Suiciding would just have them respawn again (unhappy, but alive).
Unless you translate the "Delete" function as suicide :p

Surely you've seen the world message it gives when someone deletes their character. Killing one's self is not the same as committing suicide. Also, to quote Lavarion, "Though, sometimes if players were killing enough of a certain monster, back in the storyline eras, that monster would go extinct, or at least be forced into hiding. If I were getting PKed constantly, I'd probably suicide too."

[Argonus]

All I want to know is will we ever see a continuation of the current storyline or will everything reset?

[Jimbo Jambo]

Like I said, it would be nice if Ansi could throw us a rope, but even if she did, where would we go from there? Right back to killing monsters?

[Argonus]

Perhaps we need a new threat to face?

[Lavarion]

(kicks down the door)
Face this threat!
(dispenses a six-pack of justice)